Ok I'm seeing a lot of comments theorising what the film's moral could be and whether it even intended to have one. After seeing a couple of comments below and doing some research online, it appears that in the original book Chirin ends up ambushing the wolf, and admits that he had always intended to kill him someday in order to seek revenge. But after killing the wolf, Chirin realises that getting his revenge did not bring him happiness, and admits that he actually loved the wolf as a teacher and a father figure. THIS would actually fit the moral that it is wrong to become consumed with revenge, but I guess the film thought that would have been too dark for Chirin's character, and so made out that he only killed the wolf to protect the other sheep. Which unfortunately ends up clouding the message of the story. So yeah, mystery solved team!

I think the message is about how an obsession can turn you into the very thing you hate as well as that revenge doesn’t always lead to a happy ending

"Hello. My name is Chirin Montoya. You killed my mother. Prepare to teach me."

What made me cry is when he at first didn’t realize she was dead

This might have already been mentioned here, but I'd like to point something out about the bell. It's an old animal husbandry (ranching) custom in some areas of the world to designate a young male from the herd or flock as the "bellwether." The bellwether is castrated and specially conditioned to be the most responsive to the rancher's calls, while simultaneously being the one member of the herd/flock to which other members tend to follow or gather around, for the purposes of easier herding and field rotation. Hence, the poignant, if subtle, cosmic irony: Chirin was meant to lead his flock, but instead lost himself to the monstrosity which stole his mother's life and his innocence. It's poetic when you think about how he was supposed to live a life of contentment and companionship...only to be left abandoned to a cruel fate of solitude, all because he could not accept his grief and make peace with himself.

Am I the only one that thinks some Japanese anime have disturbing bloody violence

Chirin has horns like a wildebeest, kinda

If lambs are a Dora Ball ... this might ruin your childhood

Some highland cows have front facing horns

I had to pause the video at the Littlefoot-Sharptooth hybrid until I stopped laughing so I wouldn't miss anything. I knew when it said 777k views that I hit the jackpot.

Sheep are assholes. Im totally convinced 😭👏

At the end, chiron looks a lot like griffith. I think it's the combination of the atmosphere and the eyes.

You know I do like to kill my dog if he kill my little cat

I think when the wolf told Chirin that one thing must die for another to live that some of that got lost in translation. I think the real translation goes along more like some things are meant to die while others live, and the hard truth of that. So when the wolf saw that Chirin didn't die from the fall, whirlpool, etc. , he knew that he was meant to live, and later tried to force him to kill the sheep because he believed they were meant to die. So maybe just more about having a predisposition on nature and the duality of how it can be both cruel and beautiful.

I think the shrek one was mean to be dark comedy

With the deviation form the book that the movie made, the moral becomes very ambigious. I got solitary message that can be summed up as "Life's not fair."

If I was he I would have gone and kill the rest of the sheep

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I think the moral is "Don`t betray your true nature". The sheep wanted to become a wolf, because it wanted to become strong. But as you mentioned this makes him some kind of "unnatural animal" (-> the hornes). The other sheeps don`t accept him anymore, because "he is no real sheep anymore". I think the "right way" whould have been to become a "strong sheep"- not a "strong sheep-wolf-something".

Knowing what I know about Japanese morals I think its the strength of self reliance coupled with the otherness of leaving the safety of the herd... neither are bad but they can not coexist

What was the name of that movie you showed when the dog shot the guy in the face with his gun, that looked interesting

I screamed and laughed at the same it went like:AHhHhHahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I swear I heard this story already but with people instead of sheep and with demon instead of wolf and the main character also becomes a demon, I think? And the demon doesn't just kill his mother but destroys the whole village while he was away.

There are animals with horns growing to face forward like that. Wildebeast, as an example, but also some Highland cattle and english longhorn can have their horns grow like that. I'm not really sure why or how that occurs but it does. Some double horned sheep also have some wacky horns.

don’t forget Sanrio also made Aggretsuko but that series is in here in the future-

that reminds me on how zorro goes to mihawk to train with him to finally defeat him XD

I think Sondheim (by way of Sweeney Todd) said it best: "to seek revenge may lead to Hell, but everyone does it"

Someone tell him about Aggretsuko ,

Moral of the story seems like Sheep 🐑 = Asshole 🍩

Does a story have to have a moral/morals or have to try teach a moral/morals, why can't a story be just a story.

“Oh my god its scar fa- I MEAN the bad wolf!” *farthing wood flashbacks intensify*

Bambi but bambi kills the hunter lol

I've seen this movie when I was much younger and only recently remembered it, and I feel this movie would have made a lot more sense if our main character was a sheepdog puppy instead of a lamb. Perhaps he's told to hide when the wolf shows up and sees what happened later, goes off to train with what he assumes is a different wolf and only finds out that it's the same one at the end of the movie. then the reason the sheep were scared of him at the end would make a lot more sense as he looks more like the wolf. Sorry for the long comment, I'm a quiet a talker.

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The Ringing Bell: Bird and her babies die and its sad Shrek: ha ha the ladi ate the babie and birb go popp

Or yeah maybe sheep's ARE assholes

Well lesson might be something like When u try to kill the monster u actually become the monster. Right???????

Bro that shrek scene I had the same reaction tho

Steve: No no...everything is fine Me: yeah..........for NOW

fuck dem dogs yo

3:29 thank you for the spoiler alert :)

I usually really enjoy your videos but this one kinda rubbed me wrong... Like most of the video is commentary like 'whaaaaat? This children allegorical story isn't realistic??? The horns are wroooong? Why does everyone laugh at eggs in Shrek, a movie scene framed as a comedy, but not the egg scene in chirin, a heavy and dramatic scene.... Whaaaaaaaat' Still mate, really enjoy your channel keep it up.

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I showed this movie to my sister and she cried so hard lmao

as dumb as this.may sound i just seams like a lesson on sides and in a way a very christian way of looking at how sides are determined. as the fence is used as a symbol of the line between good and "evil" more than adult and childhood. and at the end he had already given up his life under the shepard so the sheep couldnt see him as a sheep even though he may have saved them and by defying the wolf he showed that he still had not forgotten the fact that he was what he was thus placing him on the fence between predator and prey making him neither. in short terms if one does not decide to be on one side then one shall belong to neither

someone put ed sheerans face on the lamb. Call it Ed Chirin

J a p a n e s e A n i m e

japan wouldnt be japan if they didnt make a show where the main character wants a master

hmm why does woe look like bec noir???

When it comes to most movies, I usually judge them with my own stupid little method of Counting on my fingers the amount of questionable or none kid moments. Each one that happens. You put down a finger, one full hand goes down? Pg 13-, two? not for kids. Anyways- this is a dumb way of saying 2/10. Not spoopy enough for my pumkin month >:( 🎃👻

Why do I think that grown-up Chirin looks kinda like Griffith from Berserk?

hey look its a cute anime movie *hears that it was suggested* now all the little lamps will *DIE*

What?! That’s such a dark ending the ....

Lesson: Sheep really /are/ assholes.

You can actually change the shape of horns by creating a pressure on growing, young horns. His horns looks like they were bend forward instead of back so they probably have worked on their shape with the wolf. I have no explanation why his legs are so long though....

Not every movie has a moral. Some just exist to tell a story.

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Should've made him kill the sheep so the story could come back to not being consumed by vengeance.

15:00 To be fair to the other sheep, he did kill all the guard dogs, which probably makes him pretty disagreeable in their eyes.

Prob a rhino or elephant

At 6.08 the Music that plays In the background is similar to the music that plays in the 1951 Disney film Alice in Wonderland- When Alice is Falling down the Rabbit Hole in the begining.

Holly shit, i was one of the kids that were terryfied of that Shrek bird scene

He became oni chirin lol

Man I love this movie.

♫ Ba Ba Black Sheep, have you any soul? ♫ No, sir, by the way~ *SHEEP ARE ASSHOLES* Also, at 16:45 Obviously, that bear was scared silly~ xP

This movie made me cry

I just don't understand how Chirin can actually be more adorable than an actual lamb, lol because those are cuter than anything I have ever seen until Chirin.

I guess Woe knew that sheep are assholes 💀

You are right. There is no animal with front-facing horns. Why would you risk injuring your eyes and face with a front-facing attack? Horns in nature point backwards to attack with a "raking" motion - more damage for less effort. Chirin certainly has a case of artistic license of biology. He goes from prey to predator, hence his more menacing horns.

Do mother sheep actually dive onto their children to protect them?

The babirusa

I thought the representation was one of the most simple of one's: Life is not fair. You can become the person of goals, but you will lose along the way.

The lesson is not to become the thing you hate.

Omg why

5:51 They're not (only) assholes. Sheep are normal people, they don't really care about the others. And they approve change as long as themselves don't have to change their own habits and make efforts. People are egoistic.

I think that bull is the closed thing to his horns .... if not...?

Why does the lamb look like a toddler in dippers lamb costume?

In regards to how the sheep act, I think it's a matter of them being consigned to their fate; they live their lives as comfortable as they can while accepting they'll be eaten someday (kinda like the rabbits from the warren of the shiny wire in Watership Down). By training under the wolf, Chirin rejected his complacent nature, which is reflected in how his appearance changes into an unnatural animal near the end. Even though he saves the sheep they reject him because for all intents and purposes he's no longer one of them and their nature is to fear anything unlike them.

All Japanese Studio's seem to create some kind of dark movie even if they do mostly children's stories. In the past, Japanese children's stories were quite dark. Most of them (I do not know if all of them were as I am not Japanese but used to read a lot of their children stories when I was young). Now with all that said, I dont think I have ever watched a movie more depressing and saddening as I did with Grave of the Fireflies. I hand it to the Japanese, they managed to get much more emotions out of me than most stories.

the morale of the story is that sheep are assholes

Thats how mafia works

Tasty. Idk

I love how many times you use the Thomas face

plus it's a good piece of 70s anime.

Those things are perrie dogs, which are the cutest animals you will find on this side of the world.

What this movie shows is that if you seek vengeance by doing the evils that evil did to you, you are no different than the evil that wronged you.

It's almost like the lesson is life is cruel and unfair, and doing the right thing is a lonely path.

The wolf isn't the Villian, the sheep herd are the Villians; they showed little empathy when Shirin lost his mother to the wolf, they never bothered to search for him on day break, and even though he spared their lives from the wolf, they refuse to welcome Shirin home with open arms because of the fear and hatred which they have created. *NO GOOD DEED EVER GOES UNPUNISHED* that's the moral I see.

What the frick 😦 5:26

Well that’s one thing I did not want to see to day 8:50

Well I also think the point of the story is it’s better to remain innocent and true to your nature then perverse yourself by forcefully changing who you are. You’ll only be an outcast and unrecognizable. That’s what I always assumed the lesson was.

For some reason, I think the lamb looks like a telitubbie on its four legs.

.. The moral is along the lines of 'Innocence turns to becoming jaded and in fury becoming what someone wanted to either become strong enough to fight or destroy, Leading to tragedy and also the lives of animals are full of this in the wild'

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I don't feel Fiona or Chirin could have cared for the eggs or babies so eating them was probably for the best

Huh. This is a pretty bittersweet story.

Mixing some cartoony gags in serious stories was a common thing in japanese manga and animation of that time, the best example would Osamu Tezuka's stories. The moral of the story is that you have to stick to your decissions: if he didn't abandon his inital revenge purpose he wouldn't have felt remorse when he killed the Wolf, if he decided to help the Wolf to kill the sheep he would have kept his father figure. Due to his half assed decissions he lost everything. My theory is that the Wolf killed both his mother an him, the sheep don't confort him because he was a ghost, it explains why the Wolf didn't kill him when they met again, why he could survive those falls, why the collar grew with him and why he grew so strong and with those strange horns, he became a demon, the scene where he grows up looks quite demonic, it also would explain whey the other sheep were scared of him, they didn't see another sheep but a demon.